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Old 12/10/2008, 10:56 PM   #1
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AT / Shifter - help please



Hi

I am in desperate need of some help from the gang in LA.

I purchased this fantastic Shelby style console to upgrade my old console in the special - I love the special , but I am always happy to make small modifications to suit my self.

However here lies the dilemma - the shifter in the 68 console cars is different to the Non console cars ( A brainy move by ford !!) .

The new Shelby style console is meant to utilize the shifter the sat on the floor with the indicator bezel.

After contacting numerous suppliers i have come up with zilch in the way of a Non console shifter here in OZ.

So i was wondering if any of the LA crew could help me source a NON console 68 shifter and post it to me - I can arrange for funds to be collected at one of them money union places or if you got access to pay[pal even better.

I am really looking for something 2Nd hand but in good shape , i have a brand new (Scott drake) bezel so i don't need that but would like to know how the shifter indicates what gear you are in ??

Hope you can help

shaun - OZ connection
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Old 12/10/2008, 11:52 PM   #2
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I think those originally used the early Mustang shifter bezels?

1965-66 Mustang floor shift bezel is what I recall.

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Old 12/11/2008, 12:00 AM   #3
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Thanks - but the guy who sold it to me , also supplied the 67/68 shifter cover and said this was correct.
Looking through the Scott drake catalogue , it appears the console and non console 67/8 cars have different part numbers for the shifter.

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Old 12/11/2008, 05:44 AM   #4
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Shaun, when you replace the shifter it might be prudent to rebuild it before you install it in the car. The lower cup where the pivit is has two nylon bushings that can desinigrate in short order and it can be a pain to rebuild in the car. Whoever you have get the shifter, see if they can get the bushings for you as well, only about $6.00 U.S. CLUBPRO (R & R Classics) is probably your best bet as he also has faster access to a Mustang wrecking yard than I do and he can get the bushings for you as well. Hope this helps. Mike
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Old 12/11/2008, 06:00 AM   #5
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Is the problem with the shifter or with the metal housing that bolts onto the floor? Those housings are different for console vs non-console cars.
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Old 12/11/2008, 09:11 AM   #6
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If you have a '68 non console bezel, the gear selctor indication is accomplished by a light bulb attached to the gear handle, illuminating the selected gear you're in. The light bulb holder clips onto the gear shift lever.
As I recall, the console type shifter has an attachment for a nylon rod that attached to the console indicator to indicate what gear you're in.
Hopefully someone has a good used non console shifter. Good luck.

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Old 12/11/2008, 10:17 AM   #7
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Shaun,
Just did this exact conversion myself. My car was also a lower console car. I sold it to another site member. Neil is right on in his post. The console shifter has the little nylon rod that attaches to a bracket low on the shifter stalk to drag the light back and forth in the console. You had this I am sure. You need a 67/68 shifter from a non-console car. It has a “bigger bracket” with a square hole punched in it. It also has an “offset” linkage on the bottom side that the 65/66 car does not have. The 65/66 shifter is bottom linkage is straight down with no offset and will not work. There is a special metal housing that holds the shift indicator light and snaps into this square hole. Now the light moves with the shifter stalk. So you need to ensure that you get the light housing from the non-console shifter. It plugs directly into your original harness with a wire to ground. You will also need your harness for the back light in the console. I love mine and will show you a pic later today.

The 67/68 bezel is different than the 65/66. The early cars are “green dot cruise-a-matics” and have green dot in the 2nd gear indicator. When the early car is in “D” for drive it starts out in second gear. If you put it in the second position it starts in low and shifts all three gears. The thought was to provide the driver with a second gear start for driving in the snow I heard??? Weird, huh….

I got a used one for my car and rebuilt it as stated in the thread. Let me dig around and see if I can get another.

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Old 12/11/2008, 10:42 AM   #8
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Regular floor shifter with the early bezel, pretty sure.

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Old 12/11/2008, 11:48 AM   #9
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I have a floor shifter from when I converter to console. If you need it let me know. You bought the car I always wanted, so I only feel compelled to add a little of "me" to it Send me a PM and we can work it out. Casey

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Old 12/11/2008, 03:22 PM   #10
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Thanks a bunch - Crew

I really appreciate all the responses and extremely helpful advice.

Casey - you have mail.

regards

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Old 12/22/2008, 10:05 PM   #11
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NPD rip off

Hi gang

Thanks to Casey I have a shifter , I decided to order a new indicator lamp from NPD and they want $35+

What a rip off !! -

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Old 12/23/2008, 10:43 AM   #12
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Shaun,
Not sure if it is like a factory one, but the factory one is made of steel with a special clip to attach in the square hole on the shifter. It is much more than just a socket and light bulb. But I suppose $35 bucks is a bit high.

Bet you feel much better now......

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Old 12/23/2008, 03:43 PM   #13
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I remember being very confused by all the shifter stuff since the guy who was the 1st owner of the car removed the auto trans and put in a shifter. There was nothing in the hole when we got the car. I think I made the mistake of not knowing the console and non-console were different and bought the wrong one from Ebay. Then, got the right one and bought a wire harness from ebay for the console. Once I got there, everything went together very nicely.

Good luck.

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