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Old 08/16/2007, 07:03 PM   #1
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Needing help restoring 68gt/cs

I have purchased a gt/cs I have the motor rebuilt and am now looking for some help with the following questions.
1. Where can I fine the correct dark blue ford color for the motor?
2.What is the correct color of paint for the grille?
3. any other helpfull hints for restoring the motor would be appreciated.
It is a 200 cyl. So far I have had the head rebuilt, motor has been bored that is about all. Obviously new bearings seals and cam/ crank.
Once I have motor done I will have the tranny gone through. Then time to repaint.
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Old 08/16/2007, 07:32 PM   #2
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The engine paint is Ford Corporate Dark Blue, available in Krylon/Duplicolor brands
The grille paint is PPG Ditzler #32930, specially mixed at your local auto paint store.
When you add oil to your newly rebuilt engine, I would suggest you use a 30 wt non-detergent engine oil for the first few hours of operation. Good luck with the rebuild project. Many here on this site have put in the blood, sweat and tears to restore their cars and they are a wealth of info. Just ask if you have questions.

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Old 08/17/2007, 05:16 PM   #3
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Thank you for your response and suggestions i will look for the colors of paint that you suggested. I was planning on the first oil to be non detergent first. This rebuilding is a new experience for me but so far fun.
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Old 08/18/2007, 06:15 PM   #4
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Just a few other questions? I am assuming for the ford dark blue it is to be used on the block, head, valve cover, water pump, thermostat housing what else am I missing?
I planned on using semi gloss black on the fan, and pully not sure what else.
Is there a recommended color to use on the exhaust manifold?
Anyother suggestions are welcome don't hessitate please.
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Old 08/18/2007, 07:17 PM   #5
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One of the most common mistakes people make is they paint the water pump blue. It is supposed to me natural. That's why original ones are all rusty. And the power steering pump is aqua, not blue.

There is a little book that I think you can purchase that lists every part and its proper color.

I've attached the engine section.

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Old 08/18/2007, 09:00 PM   #6
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Arlie,
Wow thank you so much that will really help and it will save me time and effort asking others and then always wondering if they really knew. I will look for the book and see if I can find it. My car is a 200cid with an atomatic transmission from what research and the Marti report I can find out is that it was 1 of 47.
Thanks again Randy
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Old 08/18/2007, 09:08 PM   #7
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That's a cool book Arlie. I've never seen that before.

I have a lot of the info but this nicely organized in a list so easy to find.

I'm in the process of detailing my engine so this will come in handy.

Thanks!

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Old 08/19/2007, 12:09 PM   #8
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Arlie, I thought the water pump could be block color (seems like the book you posted shows that). I have also read, and been told, the power steering pump can be black or teal. Mine is teal, and I just ordered teal paint from NPD to touch it up. Super book....

When was the starter relay ever the maroon color? Every year seems black is correct, but a lot of them out there are maroon - why?

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Old 08/19/2007, 01:43 PM   #9
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One of the most common mistakes people make is they paint the water pump blue. It is supposed to me natural. That's why original ones are all rusty. And the power steering pump is aqua, not blue.

There is a little book that I think you can purchase that lists every part and its proper color.

I've attached the engine section.
Dosen't it say that the water pump is the same color as the block? I have never heard of the water pump being natural.
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Old 08/19/2007, 03:55 PM   #10
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I think you'll be correct with the teal color for the PS pump. All 68's I've seen have the teal color. I also used the spray from NPD and it worked great. I also thought the water pump should be the same as the block, Ford Corporate Dark Blue.

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Old 08/19/2007, 04:11 PM   #11
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Yep, it does say block color. Don't know what I was thinking.
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Old 08/19/2007, 08:40 PM   #12
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I just ordered a can of that PS pump Teal paint from NPD as well. I wasn't 100% sure about it but now I'm glad I did.
The current color on the car seems to be darker than Teal. So I wasn't sure it was correct for 68.

I'll let you know how it turns out and will post pics too.

At the rate I'm going, Casey will probably be done before me!

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Old 11/17/2007, 08:35 AM   #13
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Arlie I have not been able to find the book that you are referring to. Do you have any ideas where I may find it?
I am now beginning the process of preparing for paint job over the next few month. Any tips or thoughts are welcome by all.
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Old 11/17/2007, 10:05 AM   #14
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Arlie I have not been able to find the book that you are referring to. Do you have any ideas where I may find it?
I am now beginning the process of preparing for paint job over the next few month. Any tips or thoughts are welcome by all.
I think I saw some at John's Mustang, but that was a few years ago.

If you PM me with your email address I can send you the scanned pages.
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Old 11/17/2007, 08:25 PM   #15
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Thought that might be the book someone was going to refer to and not meaning to start anything but I can't let the opportunity to speak up go by

IMHO I would not use this book as a reference - especially for a San Jose car!!. From the little that others have quoted from it ... IF your restoring your car back to factory its way out of date and full of mistakes. I had a few restoration shops that called and quoted from the book - after listening I suggested that they just throw it away.... caused too much confusion and issues in the long run. Things like the paint marks are based on the 72 version of the MPC and it looks like the finishes were compiled sometime in the 80's or early 90's

Instead get a copy of the MCA rules (not even close to being enough help but a start) and ask allot of questions on good forums. Way too much info has been discovered in the recent year and generally no written sources identify the difference practices, parts and finishes between assembly plants. SO the live forums with lots of people looking over the shoulder of those answering helps keep the answers as up to date as possible and in turn provides peer review for each response.

In addition don't copy other cars - even if they have won some show or are in magazine. Remember that cars only have to be as good as the rules or the judges that day. ;)

Just one (experienced) opinion of course.

Not sure how this subject got started in the "Off Topic" section of this site ??? ;)
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