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Old 11/17/2007, 06:22 PM   #1
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rear axle ratio

hi people what would you recomend for gear axle ratio? mine has the 2.79 right now. i have a 302 mild cam headers 4 bbl auto. i just want some more off the line, but i would still cruise a little on the hwy. i was thinking of 3.25ratio, would that be a good all round ratio? also i was looking at dynamat for floor insulation, or just the traditional good enough? thanx roland
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Old 11/17/2007, 07:22 PM   #2
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Mine has a 3.00 and I get second gear chirps at about 3/4 throttle (302-4V, probably a bit more radical cam, automatic w/shift kit). It cruises well on the highway also. A 3.25 will get off the line better but run at higher RPM's on the highway. Everything is a trade-off. You just have to decide what you want more.

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Old 11/17/2007, 10:55 PM   #3
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It depends on what the price of gas means to you....

A 2.79 will give you about 18-22 mpg. A 3.25 will probably give you about 18mpg and less.

At freeway speeds, if you downshift at 55, you'll be glad you have the lower ratio (2.79) with the torque of a hipo motor to pull you up to 75 (or so, not to advocate speeding..) with the power without the engine screaming, if it were a 3.25. It's like my '94 GT. It's a 3.25, with the overdrive (with a pushbutton for OD or not), and I can choose. What a difference!

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Old 11/17/2007, 11:14 PM   #4
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It depends on what the price of gas means to you....

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Absolutely nothing! I don't use my "older" cars as daily drivers so when I do drive them it's about enjoyment, not economy, otherwise I'd be driving a hybrid at 30 mph in the left lane of the freeway and munching organic celery sticks. With 5 eco-unfriendly classics and a 3/4 ton diesel I have a carbon footprint bigger than Al Gore's house.

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Old 11/17/2007, 11:24 PM   #5
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Well, yeah, if it's just a car for a pleasure drive, or off to a car show, the price of gas means nothing.

But for those that may drive their GT/CS a lot (like me, I have 430K miles on mine since 1974); you'll want to be a bit more frugal. I know of several CS owners that drive theirs a lot, like to work, vacations, etc. I remember whining when gas hit $1 a gallon!!

I like the idea of hybrids...since it will extend our availibility of gas for the cars we like. More than once, I've been passed by a Prius at 80mph, weaving through traffic!! One time, I was passed by a test Hydrogen powered Focus in Sacramento the other day, at 90mph! We gave each other thumbs up!! It was nuts!!

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Old 11/18/2007, 10:25 AM   #6
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Steve,
License plate frame on my fastback says. "There is more to life than gas mileage". 2 cars that get "gallons to mile" not "miles to gallon". GT/CS is just a bit better. 12 to 14 range on a good day. "Puddin" (won't pull the skin off a cup of pudding) my 96 3.0 Ranger 4X4 is my economy driver. 18 to 22 on a good day.

Live 10 minutes from work and carpool or sometimes ride the bus. Like Steve, I drive mine alot but not far and all about the fun. So not to much carbon goes up in smoke!

Gas prices are a pain, but they don't stop me.

Back to the thread. The best choice is an AOD and 3.5 or 3.7 gears. I have a gear vendors overdrive in my 57 wagon with 3.7's! Works great! Or be like me in my Fastback. Currently 4.11's with a wide ratio top loader crash box. I am considering 4.30's. Bit busy at 55, but oh baby, do I get there quick!!!

By the way if you start playing with tires and wheels and drop your tire diameter a couple of inches, that will lower you gear ratio a bunch. Not sure what your thoughts are on your tires.

Celery is great if you have enough peanut butter!!!

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Old 11/18/2007, 11:19 AM   #7
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The best choice is an AOD and 3.5 or 3.7 gears.
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My car had an AOD with 3.50 gears. It also had 28" diameter tires, which acted like higher gears. I was told I should be able to get somewhere around 18 MPG on the highway if I kept my foot out of it. Never was able to find out. The best I ever got was 13.

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HP numbers are good and all, but they're like asking someone how much they can bench. What difference does it make, if I can still kick your ass.
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Old 11/18/2007, 01:25 PM   #8
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I have a similar problem... Heavy-a-footest-itis!!! Took my Weber inducted Fasback to Long Beach Washington for a car show. Couple hundered miles. Tried to really baby it!!! Could not get there on one tank....

The results. 7 miles to the gallon.... Now that is a carbon footprint for a car!!! Fortunately, I drive it about 500 miles on a good year.....

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Old 11/18/2007, 01:28 PM   #9
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I have a similar problem... Heavy-a-footest-itis!!! Took my Weber inducted Fasback to Long Beach Washington for a car show. Couple hundered miles. Tried to really baby it!!! Could not get there on one tank....

The results. 7 miles to the gallon.... Now that is a carbon footprint for a car!!! Fortunately, I drive it about 500 miles on a good year.....

Rob
I did better than that, but I usually got 8-10.

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HP numbers are good and all, but they're like asking someone how much they can bench. What difference does it make, if I can still kick your ass.
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Old 11/18/2007, 03:40 PM   #10
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hi people what would you recomend for gear axle ratio? mine has the 2.79 right now. i have a 302 mild cam headers 4 bbl auto. i just want some more off the line, but i would still cruise a little on the hwy. i was thinking of 3.25ratio, would that be a good all round ratio? also i was looking at dynamat for floor insulation, or just the traditional good enough? thanx roland
...My J-code 302/ 4v has the factory 3.00 ratio. Plenty of "go" off the line, yet comfortable @ 70 mph. 'Gets about 13/18 mpg.

Both 390s have 3.25 and go like hell out of the chute, but like to cruise around 55/60 mph @ 8/10 mpg. (4/6 when Don drove it)

The C-code has a 2.79 and gets around 18/22 mpg and tho not as peppy, will cruise all day at 75 mph.

The black 302, 4v/ 4-speed has a 3.18 posi and is quick as well as nice highway cruiser. That's all I can tell you 'cuz the speedo/ odometer runs backwards ;-)

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Old 11/18/2007, 07:07 PM   #11
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I suggest keep it simple. A J code 4/v with a 3.00 will do just fine. Ford thought so, too!
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Old 11/18/2007, 09:32 PM   #12
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I have 3.55's with a C4 auto. I don't drive it very much other than to shows and to drag race. I would not go any more than 3.25 if you will be doing much freeway driving.

I agree the ideal set up would be an AOD.

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Old 11/19/2007, 12:24 PM   #13
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I agree the AOD's are nice. Things to consider are price of the tranny, installation cost, you must add an oil cooler, I think a different cross member also. What type/how much driving per year are you contemplating? All these points led me to opt to retain the C-4 A/T and the 3.00 rear.
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Old 11/19/2007, 05:19 PM   #14
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my J-code 302 has 355 gears,4-speed runs fine 70 @3000rpm,around 18mpg , I wouldnt go any higher. nates68
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