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Old 10/12/2006, 07:39 AM   #1
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Can any of you who have done this tell me how difficult it is to find and replace the parts needed to convert and automatic shift assembly without console to and automatic shift assembly for a console? I just want to know that besides drilling holes to secure the console and getting the longer knobs for the radio what other work and parts must I get to install a console in my car? Thank you to any of you that can provide some help and advise.
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Old 10/12/2006, 07:46 AM   #2
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If I can remember it correctly, you'll need the shift plate but this might come with the console unit you get. You'll need the console wiring harness and a radio bracket that houses the radio and serves as an anchor point for screws on the upper sides of the console. If you get this from a donor car, you might have it all together. If you're piecing a unit together, it might be more of a challenge. Anyone else have other suggestions?

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Old 10/12/2006, 08:01 AM   #3
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Oh yeah, I know I need the wiring harness and the radio bracket too. I am mainly concerned with what I need to replace on the shifter. A non-console shifter is different from a shifter with a console correct? What parts are interchangeable? Does anyone know if the handle is the same?
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Old 10/12/2006, 08:16 AM   #4
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I don't believe there's a difference in the shifter stalk between the two applications. The T-bar shift handle is leatherette covered on deluxe interiors. Other than that, I don't there's a difference.

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Old 10/12/2006, 10:00 AM   #5
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I found this on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=190039512435) which leads me to believe that there are 2 different ones. Can anyone else confirm? Thanks.
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Old 10/12/2006, 12:49 PM   #6
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Hey there! :-)

Here is the diagram for the 1968 Mustang and Cougar shifter assembly for use with the console.

It looks a little complicated, but it works like this: There (should be) is a little plate with a hole in it at the base of the shifter, hidden by the non-console plate. In this hole goes the "U" shaped rod (plastic) that moves the indicator, with the bulb attached--that shines light to one of the "P-R-N-D-D2-L" positions.

There is also a black plastic "slider" that hides the "innards" by moving with the shifter, in the console.

A word about installing the console--the part just under the radio will seem too low, when you want to attach the screws at the top of the radio. This is because there is not enough padding under the carpet in that area. Over time, and/or after a new carpet is installed, the thicker padding on the hump is not thick enough. So, lift up the carpet there, and add some more padding (but smooth it out).

Remember to wire in the rear light on the console, too. It's part of the (door open) courtesy light circuit, and (I think) there is a pigtail under the dash to hook up that wire.

Gosh, I may have not remembered everything. So...Good Luck!

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Old 10/12/2006, 02:47 PM   #7
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Paul: It's no wonder that you're an accomplished writer. That describes my recent installation exactly. The black shifter plate is available as a repo. if anyone needs a replacement. I think there was a question about whether the chrome shift stalk is the same or different in console equipped versus non-console cars. I believe that they are the same. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old 10/12/2006, 03:19 PM   #8
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Is there some extra hardware on the transmission hump for the console? The reason I ask is because my console fell apart when I removed it and I tried using a non-console shift bezel but I couldn't screw it down due to some steel plates sticking up from the shifter hole area of the hump.
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Old 10/12/2006, 03:35 PM   #9
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Yes, you are right, Steve:

There are two different shift levers for the Automatic shifter in a ('67 &) '68 Mustang.

1. Non-Console type, Floor Shift, 67/68 Mustang, 6cyl and V-8, pt. # C7ZZ-7210-A

2. Console type, Floor Shift, 67/68 Mustang, 6cyl and V-8, pt. # C7ZZ-7210-C
(this type has the hole provided for the shifter rod, for the console).

I'm wondering if there is a way to modify a non-console shifter, with some sort of welded on (?) piece of metal to copy the console version (that wouldn't blue the chrome from the heat).

These part numbers are exclusive to Mustang (and Cougar), and won't fit Fairlane, Torino, etc. for those years.

I hope this helps.

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Old 10/12/2006, 03:54 PM   #10
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but wait, there's more!

OK....to answer Arlie's question. I went to my big book (you should see me doing this, while trying to eat tortilla chips and dip--LOL!).

I thought "nah", but Arlie is absolutely right. The part he's asking about is called the "Housing--Transmission Console Shift selector". It's actually that "bucket--looking thing" that the shift lever bolts into.

Low and behold, there are two types: One for non-console (pt. no. C7ZZ-7A306-B), and one for consoles (C7ZZ-7A306-A)--for '67 and '68 Mustangs (and Cougars) only.

The difference is simple. The console version has these little, raised metal tabs for the plastic console shifter "slider" thingy to attach to. If you do not have a console type housing, I bet that one could drill a couple of holes, and install some small bolts with retainer nuts, to match up with the console slider. It's important to keep that slider in an "up" position to press against the underside of the console.

Does that make sense? (I just dropped my tortilla chips).

Good discussion--this may help many.

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Old 10/12/2006, 04:11 PM   #11
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The shifter assembly is indeed different between console and non console cars. IMO it is best to buy the whole assembly as the housing (bucket) has the tabs for the plastic select indicator. The handle has the tab for the plastic adapter, and the indicator light is mounted differently.

The assembly is easily changed, only four bolts and a pin to remove, but ensure you rebuild the shifter before installing the console. The plastic bushing are available from Ford or Mustang vendors for a few bucks. You should be able to locate a how to article about rebuilding the shifter.


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Old 10/13/2006, 05:42 AM   #12
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So can someone tell me if this is the assembly that is needed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=190039512435 for a console? I could use the shifter handle from the non-console shifter, correct?

I didn't realize there were so many parts involved for the conversion. Thanks all, for the great information!
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Old 10/13/2006, 01:18 PM   #13
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Yes, that is the shifter assembly you need. I haven't been watching the prices lately, but I would suspect b/t $75-$100 for it.


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Old 10/14/2006, 10:07 PM   #14
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A word about installing the console--the part just under the radio will seem too low, when you want to attach the screws at the top of the radio. This is because there is not enough padding under the carpet in that area. Over time, and/or after a new carpet is installed, the thicker padding on the hump is not thick enough. So, lift up the carpet there, and add some more padding (but smooth it out).

Oh, if only I'd consulted you guys about 2 mos. ago! Now I have to get the energy and the nerve to pull that console out again so I can add some padding under the new carpet! Great tips, Paul.

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Old 10/18/2006, 12:31 PM   #15
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I've been asked by "Luvmycs" to post a larger diagram, with the console AND non-console versions, side-by-side.

There are similar (Ford basic) part numbers for what may be a variation for each application. It would require a tedious process to check out every part, so if you look closely, you might get to see some differences.

I hope that this helps.

Good Luck!

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