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Old 06/22/2006, 03:04 PM   #16
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I checked with one of the members on the site that is an original owner of the CS, and he said the "caution" fan sticker was there, but the "front" sticker is not? I am not disputing the conclusions here...just bringing in another point of reference. Casey

Casey... thanks confirmed everything like others have. And in no way does it dispute the conclusions
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Old 02/08/2007, 07:41 PM   #17
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Hey Guys
I was directed here by a fellow Cougar owner.
As previous Vice Pres of the Cougar Club of America I addressed the Caution Fan decal.
Those who have a Master Parts Catalogue can refer to a section called decalmania in which you will see the decal is called out as C0A iirc prefix. 1960 Prefix.
This Caution Fan decal went on full size cars like Lincolns Birds Galaxie.
It did not and never was present on ANY Falcon Fairlane COMET Cougar or Mustang till 73.
Where it states this is under decalmania in the MPC.
Many think it was there or should be however it is incorrect for all Mustangs Cougars etc pre 73.
The decals appear on NOS pieces built after 1972 or so.
From what I learned in the year I spent on this is that the Ford flex fans were breaking and coming thru hoods rads and human flesh eventually killing a Ford Technician.Then the notice went out Jeff Speegle (Hi Jeff) speaks of.
On my site www.classiccougar.net/Forum you will find more discussion about this incorrect but often seen on "original" and restored cars decal.

To see the effort and exasperation I went thru with CCoA trying to update the judging guidelines search www.mercurycougar.net for Caution fan as a search title and read up the 20-30 pages of info and discussion there.

I have a pdf of the Mercury MPC I can provide anyone interested just email me.
As to the FRONT decal.
Myself I have never seen one on any Factory Ford myself.
I hear that it was a 67 ONLY part.
Someone (including me) could look in MPC for the air cleaner decal mania section for verification.
As a side note I have seen many air cleaner housings that did not appear to have had the AUTOLITE decal.
Also note that Bob Perkins Museum factory cars have no (CatinFan) decal present aside from the 429 and that Bob himself will tell you the Caution Fan decal was not present from factory.
Jim Smart can also confirm this but it took a call from CCoA to Bob P to confirm what I had been telling CCoA all along.

It was a nasty point of contention in the Cougar community as the CCoA guidelines call for it as may or may not have but I know it never was there.
I have worked on Fords since 1976 and specialize in 66/70 FoMoCo.
Details is my "thing" and the cat in fan decal was always a peeve of mine on "restored" cars.
Never was there, ever.
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Old 02/08/2007, 08:14 PM   #18
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Hi Ray thanks for some additional support of this. With all the pictures of cars in magazines with the CAUTION decal they will not go away soon :( Yes the Cougar guys got allot uglier than what I've seen elsewhere

As for the "FRONT" decal I've got pictures back to at least 65 of original cars with that decal in place.

"As a side note I have seen many air cleaner housings that did not appear to have had the AUTOLITE decal."

Cars from which factory? Can't say I've seen many SJ cars without them in 68 or at least the remains (glue at least)
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Old 02/09/2007, 11:54 AM   #19
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Hi Jeff
The FRONT decal I have not seen but as you state 65 66 the 67 ONLY would refer to Cougar as there was no 65 66 Cougar. I now understand that,thanks.
As for the AUTOLITE decal a search on MercuryCougar.net with 69 air filter assemblies will get the info up on what my experience was.
Basically what I see is that high performance engines almost always got the Autolite decal where-as many lower performance engines do not appear to have had this. I took a trip and looked at many original unrestored cars in Pacific NW as well as visited well known respected names in Cougarland regarding these decals and their correctness.

My referrance is mainly Dearborn 69 builds.

As for the Cat in Fan decal you are right it will take some time for this to go away .
With guys like yourself and others sharing the correct info now we know better what was original/correct and what is a points deduction.

PS a look thru old magazines of the 66/70 era will show that not all got the Autolite decal and that NONE got the caution fan decal.
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Old 02/09/2007, 07:46 PM   #20
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ViCatz sorry for the confusion I cover many years and models.

We're getting off the point a little since this is a San Jose 68 site but lets share

Our experiances differ a bit but will keep looking. Did look through some of the pictures I have and found the following

A couple of "lowly" Dearborn cars

8F03T129073



9F01H119691


A couple of non high performance San Jose examples from 69 this time

9R01F125116


9R91H502xx0


And a 12K original miles Mach I
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Old 02/09/2007, 08:19 PM   #21
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Thanks
Lets see what I have on tap...
afew pics I have handy.
The B&W are from car mags of the day from test drives these cars went on.
also notice the shop manual drawings one does one doesn't- not that factory drawings are proof just that its interesting.
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Old 02/09/2007, 09:59 PM   #22
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Nice magazine pictures but we're getting way off the focus (though I like seeing the 71 CJ Cougar since I'm building one) with 71 vehicles.

Have had much faith in magazine cars since they were often prepped and reused various times. The one original (though a but rough ;) 70 in the one picture appears that it might have the remains (at least the glue) of the sticker. Since these were paper based decals (unlike the reproduction) they didn't hold up well in the wet parts fo the country

Thanks for sharing....... guess this thread now belongs better over on one of the Cougar sites but will keep looking at those Dearborn cars. ;)

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Old 02/10/2007, 09:32 AM   #23
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Thought this thread needed a photo of an unrestored 1968 San Jose 289 engine.
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Old 02/10/2007, 03:49 PM   #24
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"Unrestored" well that's one word for it ;)

Thanks ... when was the car built? - for reference purposes
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Old 08/14/2008, 09:43 PM   #25
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Proper name for these decals are Engineering tags. They are determined by the engineers for safety and to let owners know important inportant information. I reproduce Engineering tags for the Mercedes-Benz W113 Pagoda SL model from 1964 to 1971. Very costly but by all means needed even if you do not show your car.

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Old 08/18/2008, 06:21 PM   #26
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The paper tag was a temporary one designed for use at the plant and not really for owners or service personnel. The aluminum tag was designed for that purpose. ;)
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Old 08/20/2008, 01:56 PM   #27
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In summary: I think?

CAUTION on the fan shoud not correct
FRONT on the air cleaner is correct

I have a 390 S code with automatic.

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Old 08/20/2008, 07:57 PM   #28
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In summary: I think?

CAUTION on the fan shoud not correct
FRONT on the air cleaner is correct

I have a 390 S code with automatic.

Doug
No "FRONT" decal on a 68 San Jose car originally - IMHO ;)
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Old 08/20/2008, 07:58 PM   #29
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Thought this thread needed a photo of an unrestored 1968 San Jose 289 engine.

For viewers - take note of the aftermarket emissions system added to the front of the air cleaner.
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