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Old 02/15/2007, 04:58 AM   #16
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And a Canadian 68 GT

IF this is correct for a Canadian 68 MUSTANG then mine is incorrect on my car. When I bought it they had the one you pictured on it and of course I assumed it was incorrect since those were used on 67 Mustangs. I still want someone to double check that California Specials that went to Canada used the 67 air cleaner (I like to double check data to confirm things).

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Old 02/15/2007, 07:01 AM   #17
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The reason for an international version is that CS were shipped to Canada and therefore w/o the INT version one will not see the Canadian information.
Jasons car is a Canadian DSO iirc.
Jason
IP is the 69 390. MAny still call a 69 390 a GT but it is actually an IP. IP equals Improved Performance.Has Autolite carb and different intake than 67/8 GTs.
Jason the diameter of the air filter assembly.
According to the MPC the 68 GT housing is 17" in diameter.
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Old 02/15/2007, 07:03 AM   #18
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IF this is correct for a Canadian 68 MUSTANG then mine is incorrect on my car. When I bought it they had the one you pictured on it and of course I assumed it was incorrect since those were used on 67 Mustangs. I still want someone to double check that California Specials that went to Canada used the 67 air cleaner (I like to double check data to confirm things).
Jason
I too would prefer someone double check.
I do not want anyone to take my word for it.
I'd prefer that I just bring your attention to these details and that you and others resource the info to confirm.
I guarantee you though that I am correct on this matter.
I understand why you would have assumed it was in error.
I also have been mixed up on this before and why I'm here sharing now.
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Old 02/15/2007, 07:10 AM   #19
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Can we please keep to 1968 Mustangs and terminology on this site? I don't own a 67 or a 69 only 68's. I doubt many on this board would know what you mean by a IP. I am not trying to be a wisea$$ just trying to keep on topic of 1968 Mustangs and specifically California Specials.

I will measure my housing later today and post back here.

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Old 02/15/2007, 07:21 AM   #20
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You may not own a 67 or 69 however others may indeed be scavenging parts from other years. Now some 68 owners will need to scavenge 67 air filter assemblies....
It is noteworthy that a 69 390 is NOT a 68 390 and that one should not confuse the two as has happened before. I feel that info is relevant to 68 owners, that a 69 is not same.
Neither is 67 390. The dampner and some other bits are different.
IP is correct name for 69 Mustangs not GT.

Sometimes we need to look outside the box to see what we really have.
I didn't learn what I know by ignoring other lines or years.
The end will justify the means.
For instance.
One looking in the US version of shop manuals and MPC would find incomplete information and if one was to say restore his car to US standards and actually be a Canadian DSO then one would not be looking far enough to discover the information. Limitations are just that.
I have displayed the IP snorkel to show the diffs though someone has said in past that it bolts to GT 68 housing.
With your and other's help we can get to the facts here for CS, Mustang and other cars no one wants me to mention by name.
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Old 02/15/2007, 03:39 PM   #21
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17 inch diameter for my 68 390 air cleaner.

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Old 02/15/2007, 05:03 PM   #22
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Why would Ford maintain two air cleaner assemblies for the same motor depending on whether the car was Canadian or domestic? Does anyone know what would be the point? Doesn't make any sense to me. Can someone scan in the documents that show the Canadian cars with the 67 assembly?

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Old 02/15/2007, 10:27 PM   #23
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Why would Ford maintain two air cleaner assemblies for the same motor depending on whether the car was Canadian or domestic? Does anyone know what would be the point? ..... Can someone scan in the documents that show the Canadian cars with the 67 assembly?
Since this is becoming a discussion it's likely that this thread may get moved.

In any case since cars delivered outside the US were not bound by the same emission standards and regulations car companies sometimes would vary equipment and features - especially when it meant they saved money. In other cases it was just easier to use the standard US parts and leave it at that.

Can't speak to the air cleaner difference since I've never needed to deal with those cars. If something is posted it would be best if it is from 68 rather than later dates IMHO
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Old 02/16/2007, 01:22 AM   #24
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17 inch diameter for my 68 390 air cleaner.
Thanks
That is completely consistent with the data in MPC.
So does the lid on the US GT fit on the 2V base?
You see we never had any of the ones you are so familiar with here in Canada being as we had 67 emissions so I've never seen one on any car I worked on past 30 years. I'm familiar with the X code 390 351 302 size and the 67 GT 69 IP 69/70 CJ BOSS.
It was that the US imposed regulatory standards for the 1968 model run.
Canada did not.
By 69 both country's production were same emission std.
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Old 02/16/2007, 01:32 AM   #25
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Since this is becoming a discussion it's likely that this thread may get moved.
Good by me.
Once we agree on this someone can make a post in the restoration section.
I know you guys will find that CANADIAN dso CARS HAVE 67 us EMISSIONS as soon a someone can look in 1st page of section 8 in the shop manuals Canada Version or section 96 of the International Ford MPC. I can scan the Canadian Shop Manual page if I have to.
If no one has INT MPC FORD maybe I'll buy one and look it up for the discussion/information base.
Here is a seller with several MPC CDs for sale 68 version
http://search.ebay.ca/_W0QQsassZf150with20sQQhtZ-1

Once I know if the US GT lid interchanges with the non GT or X code base I'll have the knowledge/answer I am seeking.
Thanks for the information.

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Old 02/16/2007, 10:28 PM   #26
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Unless I missed something link it to the standard MPC not some international one. Guy is out of OK selling on the Canadian section of E::y
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Old 02/28/2007, 05:57 PM   #27
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According to the May 1975 Final Edition of the MPC the 1968 390 4/B had three different air cleaner assemblies.

The first was for the ("GT" with 4/B carb.) it is C8OZ-9600-B which is 17.00" dia.- 4.20 high.

The second was (except "GT") (with 4/B carb.) C8OZ-9600-A which is 17.00" dia. -4.20 high. This assembly was the same as the "B" assembly except it had a painted top.

The third was Canada only ("GT" with 4/B carb.) (open emissions)
C7ZZ-9600-F it is 16.79" dia- 3.66" high. This, according to the MPC, is the same assembly for the 1967 390 "GT".

I brought this to Jason's attention shortly after he bought his 390 CS in another thread.

I agree this thread needs to be moved!


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Old 02/28/2007, 06:01 PM   #28
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holy crap!

Well, while I own my Canada DSO 390 CS it will have a US 68 GT air cleaner assembly.

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can you link up that thread, I must have missed it back then.

BTW the snorkel in the original post IS correct for a 68 390 4V (US DSO cars).

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Old 02/28/2007, 06:13 PM   #30
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I don't know how to do the link thing, it was a thread you started on 1-7-06 "Saturday Morning PCV System Installation Pictures"


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