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Old 01/20/2006, 04:38 PM   #1
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Need Questions for a Milpitas Ford Worker Interview

I have a lead for getting in touch with a (San Jose) Milpitas (CA) Ford Factory worker, that worked on or near the Mustang GT/CS, during spring through fall 1968. I may also get in touch with a group of retired workers that also live in the Bay Area.

I wanted to open it up here, and ask if any of you have specific questions for this worker. Ask anything about how the car was assembled, procedures, colors, etc. Ask about undercoating, wiring, engines, tires, wheels, options, (stickers!) etc...whatever you can think of.

I'll include these questions when I interview these workers. Here is "your big chance"!

I'm also going to ask for photos of the GT/CS being assembled--at the factory--too!

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Old 01/20/2006, 04:47 PM   #2
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did they build CS's in batches?
Does he remember the first CJ built and that it was a CS?
Were there delays in production of the 428 CJ's and if so what held them up (engine holdups?)?

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Old 01/20/2006, 04:54 PM   #3
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Paul,
My question concerns the build dates:
- When the first batch of cars came down the line, did they start to run low on parts?
The reason I wanted to know about this my coupe is 250 Vin # behind my GT/CS but the coupe has a build date of 17 Feb and actual date of 22 Feb and the GT/CS has a build date of 16 Feb and actual date of 29 Feb.

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Old 01/20/2006, 06:16 PM   #4
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Hi Paul, My questions are:
1) Interior color change. My car seemed to have Ivy Gold interior, but I remember the carpet, Dash Pad and Door Panals being Dark Green. why did they do that.
2) What color were the San Jose built Power Steering pumps, Black, or Green.
3) On styled steel wheels, did any GT/CSs leave the factory with Chrome wheels, or were they all painted Argent. I saw somewhere, (It may have been your book), the Chrome wheels were added at the dealerships.

You already mentioned the Under coating, I hope this means the Red Oxide.
Talk to you soon. Mike

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Old 01/20/2006, 06:23 PM   #5
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San Jose power steering pumps were a light blue. Most vendors have the "power steering blue" color for sale.

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Old 01/20/2006, 06:33 PM   #6
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Jason, the blue you refer to, is this the Blue/Green, almost Aqua color? Mike

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Old 01/20/2006, 07:09 PM   #7
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3) On styled steel wheels, did any GT/CSs leave the factory with Chrome wheels, or were they all painted Argent. I saw somewhere, (It may have been your book), the Chrome wheels were added at the dealerships. Mike
Mike;
The styled steel wheels were argent from the factory. The chrome wheels were a dealer option.

My question is pretty simple: Do they remember any GT/CS with the GT option leaving the factory with the GT pop open gas cap. I have heard there were several that did.

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Old 01/20/2006, 07:12 PM   #8
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Paul,

Questions I have-

How did they cut the holes for the tail lights (what was the procedure)? Guessing they had a jig set up (since they built 4118 of these). And was the process done on the line with a saws-all and hole saw? Same goes for the hood pin holes.

Also, how did they lay the stripes on the side and back (again, what was the process)? Guessing they had parts of the bodywork that they generally referenced to. I know that in recent threads there was some variance in where the side stripes actually ended up.

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Jason, the blue you refer to, is this the Blue/Green, almost Aqua color? Mike
yes. NPD calls it metallic Teal Blue PS reservoir color. part # ap-psp

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Old 01/20/2006, 07:56 PM   #10
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Paul,
I would start with very general questions like: what parts of the plant did he work in? What did he do? and build on that. I had the pleasure of sitting in on a seminar at the Carlisle Boss Re-Union and a gentleman there was a suspension engineer and spoke very clearly on the different control arms, tie rod ends etc. It was very interesting, but he could not talk as specifically on other areas of production. So get ALL the specific stuff he can remember and then "fish" for the other stuff.

The suspension (steering link, tie rod ends) were blacked out (painted black) I am convinced it was done at the factory, but the MCA rules say natural. So, I would like to know what was blacked out and how.
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I am mostly interested in the processes used.

1. Were they built on the same line? Were they built in batches? How, or what, determined when the batch was over? Was there a special team formed for the unique changes?

2. What training or manuals were they given to make these fairly significant changes?

3. How were they told to make the changes for the HCS? ie, how did they know to leave off the california special script and the GT/CS?

4. Since the build sheet and VIN do not tell that it is a CS, and there is no buck tag for San Jose, how did they track that all the parts went on the car?

5. Did they consider building this special version a pain in the butt, or cool? (If I were on the line, I might have grumbled about all the changes).

6. How did they like working with fiberglass for the first time?

7. Was there a particular or special CS that stands out in their mind? Why?

Thanks, Casey
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Old 01/20/2006, 09:04 PM   #12
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I have a lead for getting in touch with a (San Jose) Milpitas (CA) Ford Factory worker, that worked on or near the Mustang GT/CS, during spring through fall 1968. I may also get in touch with a group of retired workers that also live in the Bay Area.

I wanted to open it up here, and ask if any of you have specific questions for this worker. Ask anything about how the car was assembled, procedures, colors, etc. Ask about undercoating, wiring, engines, tires, wheels, options, (stickers!) etc...whatever you can think of.

I'll include these questions when I interview these workers. Here is "your big chance"!

I'm also going to ask for photos of the GT/CS being assembled--at the factory--too!

Thanks!
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Mike;
The styled steel wheels were argent from the factory. The chrome wheels were a dealer option.

My question is pretty simple: Do they remember any GT/CS with the GT option leaving the factory with the GT pop open gas cap. I have heard there were several that did.

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Don, beg your pardon, chrome wheels available from factory for $77.73.
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Old 01/20/2006, 10:01 PM   #14
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I kinda figured the chrome wheel thing from the factory too.

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Old 01/20/2006, 10:16 PM   #15
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I have 2 questions.......
1) Did all 68 San Jose cars have rectangular antenna bases?

2) Was thier, or was thier not a "Caution Fan" decal installed on the fan shroud of 68 San Jose cars?

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