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Old 08/03/2013, 09:23 PM   #1
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Power Steering Pump Teal color Paint Source

OK - the pump that Arlie so generously sent me has a tag for the "F" (Ford) pump and therefore should be metallic teal. I have picked up a rebuilt pump at the local Napa Auto. Three questions for our resident experts:

1) Were teal/Ford pumps used at San Jose? If so...
2) anyone know a ready source for the teal color in a spray can?

I have found a PPG Delstar Chesapeake Blue DAR-12366 reference, but looking for something simpler for this small of a part.

3) Pulley - is there a way to know if I have the correct pulley for a 68 302 PS/AC car - or is there just one single shive pulley for all 302's?

Thanks again to everyone!!! I really don't know how I would do this without all of your generosity, expertise, and encouragement!!!

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Old 08/03/2013, 09:44 PM   #2
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NPD Lists metallic teal aerosol for PS pumps, P/N AP-PSPE. $12.95

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Old 08/03/2013, 09:46 PM   #3
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WHAT?!?! I HATE their site! It doesn't return a damn thing correctly when it is searched. I even scrolled through the ENTIRE paint section!

Neil - thanks for finding what I couldn't! Have you used this before? I just looked it up and it is listed as "dark blue metallic".

Can anyone else answer q1 and q3 for me?

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Old 08/04/2013, 06:09 AM   #4
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OK - the pump that Arlie so generously sent me has a tag for the "F" (Ford) pump and therefore should be metallic teal. I have picked up a rebuilt pump at the local Napa Auto. Three questions for our resident experts:

1) Were teal/Ford pumps used at San Jose? If so...
2) anyone know a ready source for the teal color in a spray can?

I have found a PPG Delstar Chesapeake Blue DAR-12366 reference, but looking for something simpler for this small of a part.

3) Pulley - is there a way to know if I have the correct pulley for a 68 302 PS/AC car - or is there just one single shive pulley for all 302's?

Thanks again to everyone!!! I really don't know how I would do this without all of your generosity, expertise, and encouragement!!!
The teal pumps were used at San Jose.

NPD has a teal color but is incorrect if it matters to you. custom mix is only correct option.

There were several different pulleys yours should be a 7AD.

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Old 08/04/2013, 07:45 AM   #5
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I seldom use NPD's website. I use their hardcopy catalog.
Haven't used their PS paint, and I'd take Marty's advice on color.
IF (a big IF) anyone knows of some production teal color that is correct (or close) there is an outfit that will produce it in aerosols @ reasonable cost. ($12-$15)
Just need the make, color, year. I've used their product in Mustang body colors for touch up, and they're pretty good.

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Old 08/04/2013, 04:22 PM   #6
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The NPD site isn't great but is not that bad if you use the filters, display and search options well.

Filter the search by model and year, set it to 3 rows and you can usually find things pretty fast (but I do use the paper one I have a lot).

For Ford parts as they use the correct part numbers you can just search on that if you know it... which would not help in this case.

A search on "teal +paint +pump" brought it up right away. 3rd item in list. Using Booleans can help a lot to filter results.

They have a newer color that is supposed to be matched to OEM parts, so I'd double check, their other paints I have used listed as "correct" have not disappointed.

As they stock about 100,000+ parts for numerous makes and models their site is about 10x more complicated than most Mustang-only vendors...
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Old 08/04/2013, 05:39 PM   #7
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Power Steering Pump Teal color Paint Source

Thanks for the "+" tip in their search engine. Regardless their engine is weak and their phone salesmen also hate it. When I ask about a part, I can hear them flipping pages to find it.

Thanks for the note on the new paint formula. I will check on it. My experience has been hit and miss with their formulated paints, but they won't take them back so I am always cautious - especially when it is called dark blue and not teal. Their paints do work great for nice looking pinewood derby cars though!

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Old 08/04/2013, 08:49 PM   #8
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Well, all I can say is I have compared a number against OEM parts and can't fault them... but have not tried every one...

Not great site, it works for me most of the time. I'll take that over the crap service and backorders noted on most other forums from most other vendors.
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Old 08/04/2013, 09:02 PM   #9
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Here's a previous thread that may help regarding the power steering pump color.
http://californiaspecial.com/forums/...olor#post70260
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Old 08/05/2013, 02:52 PM   #10
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I had good luck with Rainbow Industries paint for Mustang Colors. I used their #48 Lacquer for the PS pump and I found it really close if not spot on. Now everyones eyes see colors differently, so others may disagree with me. Marty has seen and judged my car several times, maybe he can confirm the color I used as right or wrong. Rainbow Industries 909-882-6677. Hope this helps
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Old 08/06/2013, 07:18 PM   #11
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Got in touch with the CEO of NPD... he's going to do a test spray of their color and compare it to the original/survivor cars they have. Will post his results once he gets them to me...

(their collection of cars and trucks (over 100 vehicles, I was so stunned I didn't count them, two huge rooms full of them) is amazing... many extremely low mileage originals... like a 66 coupe with only a few k's on it and a '66 GTO with only a few hundred miles...)

Dozens of cars literally as close as they left the factory as you will find. Bought many from dealers who stashed cars back-in-the day and eventually sold.
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I had good luck with Rainbow Industries paint for Mustang Colors. I used their #48 Lacquer for the PS pump and I found it really close if not spot on. Now everyones eyes see colors differently, so others may disagree with me. Marty has seen and judged my car several times, maybe he can confirm the color I used as right or wrong. Rainbow Industries 909-882-6677. Hope this helps
Mike your is pretty close. One thing I was going to tell you is that you need to paint your dip stick. There should not be paint on the top 1/2 inch of the tube because it was all painted as a assembly. I real like the two NOS examples that Jeff Speegle posted in the thread above.

The only color of NPD interior paint that is even close that I have used is the Charcoal Black. I usually have a custom mix made to match if it matters.
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Old 08/06/2013, 10:25 PM   #13
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Odd... I just did some interior Ivy Gold '68 parts and the color was a match to the OEM parts I had. Some very slight difference, but one would expect that comparing new paint against 43 year old!

As I have only 68's and mostly black interiors the CGM has been the mainstay and I've been very happy with the results.

As NPD compares against known low mileage cars that are documented survivors I'd be happy to raise it with their management as I am sure they would like to know what colors they sell as correct are so far off... do you have examples and pics?

For most the difficulty of finding a color to match to is an issue, I would have a very hard time finding a known correct part here in a lot of cases, and buying an over the counter can is far easier then custom matching for one can of paint... but it works if you have access and the time.
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Mike your is pretty close. One thing I was going to tell you is that you need to paint your dip stick. There should not be paint on the top 1/2 inch of the tube because it was all painted as a assembly. I real like the two NOS examples that Jeff Speegle posted in the thread above.

The only color of NPD interior paint that is even close that I have used is the Charcoal Black. I usually have a custom mix made to match if it matters.
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Just curious but you mention the painting of the dipstick. Were they painted the teak color like the pump? Sara's CS has what looks to be the original pump painted a teal color but the dipstick top itself is painted an off-white/creme color. It is peeling off but much of it still has the creme color. As I recall the oil dipstick also is painted this color.
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Just curious but you mention the painting of the dipstick. Were they painted the teak color like the pump? Sara's CS has what looks to be the original pump painted a teal color but the dipstick top itself is painted an off-white/creme color. It is peeling off but much of it still has the creme color. As I recall the oil dipstick also is painted this color.
I imagine that must be one of the PO modifications. A lot of people think the dip stick was not painted because often most of the paint peeled off due to the slick plating.

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