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Old 01/30/2007, 07:04 PM   #1
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Repro Grille on E bay

I found a repro grille on Ebay if any one is interested. I don't know anything about it.
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Old 01/30/2007, 09:42 PM   #2
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I emailed the seller and questioned weather this was assembled with tinner's rivets or pop rivets. I'll post his answer when he replies.

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Old 01/31/2007, 09:04 AM   #3
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Hey Steve,

I'm guessing tinner rivets are correct?

Where can you get these type rivets (for purposes of "making" a CS grill from a '67 grill?

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Old 01/31/2007, 09:26 AM   #4
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Jeff, when I built my grille, I couln't find any "Tinners rivets" that were the same as the originals. I found some aircraft rivets that I used and they look original. PM me and I can tell you how I did it. Mike

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Old 01/31/2007, 12:35 PM   #5
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Jeff- I found mine in a local hardware shop. I think they were displayed as "tubular" rivets. I looked everywhere for tinner's rivets and I couldn't find them. The key to it is that they have the proper diameter and are rounded or domed and solid on top. Pop rivets leave a hole on top. I don't have Paul's book with me but the diameter is listed there. 3/16" to 1/4" comes to mind. Here is a top look at mine. I'm sure others can supply more accurate details too.
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Old 01/31/2007, 12:46 PM   #6
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dumb question(s)

I guess this is a dumb question but I have been looking for a correct grill since I got my car last March. Some time in the past my car was hit in the nose. but the Marti report for mine proves it is a real CS. The best I have found to replace the grill on the car is a new '67 grill. I did not know anybody was making reproduction grills. Do you think this is a one-off or somebody out there has started making new ones? Am I wrong in thinking available original ones are rare indeed? Is anybody out there making the brackets shown with the grill on Ebay?

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Old 01/31/2007, 01:55 PM   #7
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Not a dumb question at all. We're all here to help. You are right, the original grilles are a rare find, and most restorers (myself included) use a "blank" 67 repo grille and convert it using repo brackets. I purchased mine from Delta Bay Mustang. I think these may have been available from Larry's Mustang too. It's not really a difficult task. There are prior threads on this subject and you might do a search here using the words "grille brackets" for some historical discussions.

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Old 01/31/2007, 03:49 PM   #8
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I bought mine from Delta Bay Mustang and it is a great piece. As well, I bought the Marchal Fog Light brackets at the same time from them and they worked great as well. You have to cut out the portion of the grill to install the brackets. Easy to do, however hard to make that first cut.

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Old 01/31/2007, 04:07 PM   #9
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Good points Paul, and nice resto job on that grille. One other thing to consider is the right paint. I think the general consensus is to use the following for the grille, fog brackets fog lamp uprights and wide grille molding :

PPG Ditzler 32930

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Old 01/31/2007, 07:28 PM   #10
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Be Careful about "ORIGINAL GT/CS GRILLES". There is a guy out there who will tell you it is original grille in original ford packaging, and be more than happy to take your $$$$$$. They are in fact Taiwan copies with home made brackets, assembled with pop rivets. Beware. I truley believe there are no more original NOS grilles. I built mine with Delta Bay Mustang fog light brackets, and a cherry original 67 grille. Mike

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Old 02/01/2007, 07:17 AM   #11
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Thanks for the info

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I bought mine from Delta Bay Mustang and it is a great piece. As well, I bought the Marchal Fog Light brackets at the same time from them and they worked great as well. You have to cut out the portion of the grill to install the brackets. Easy to do, however hard to make that first cut.

Paul
So it looks like what I did to mine was fairly wrong, but not irreversible. MIne had a '68 grill I bought a new "stock" '67 grill that still has some metal attachment type features on the back side, which is to say it has more than the egg crate or rectangular type center section. So I can get what you guys call a blank 67' grill and bracket from Delta Mustang and make one. All things being equal is the one on Ebay, if it costs less than the new grill and new bracket, a thoughtful option or something to be avoided? After being at Barrett Jackson in Scottsdale all the week before and seeing all the Shelbys I am fairly hyped about getting my CS as correct as possible, not to sell but just to know it is right.

Again thanks for your insight, all of you.
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Old 02/01/2007, 07:34 AM   #12
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We originally bought a used 68 grill and were planning on modification to a GT/CS grill until someone on this site recommended Delta Bay. We then took the chance and ordered the grill and brackets. In my opinion, they make a great product and you get a new grill.

Perk is correct on the color listed. It is not a black grill like one would expect.

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Old 02/01/2007, 12:47 PM   #13
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Sorry for the stupid question, or, how dense can I get

I finally looked at my grill in the daylight because I did not understand the "blank" grill part and the fact I remembered that mine had some vertical pieces. I finally saw that these vertical pieces are merely put in by the rivets discussed by others. Guess all I really need are the brackets from Delta, the tinner rivets or a reasonable replacement, and the time to put it all together. I finally own both of Paul's books so I have the location for cutting the grill.

When I get through I will be very happy for all of this and the car will be better as well.

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Old 02/01/2007, 10:26 PM   #14
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I got a response from the seller on the repo grille. It is assembled with Pop Rivets. Here is her /his reply:Hi,
As stated in the auction, the grille is a repro grille so it has pop rivets.
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Here is a layout I took from an original.

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I finally looked at my grill in the daylight because I did not understand the "blank" grill part and the fact I remembered that mine had some vertical pieces. I finally saw that these vertical pieces are merely put in by the rivets discussed by others. Guess all I really need are the brackets from Delta, the tinner rivets or a reasonable replacement, and the time to put it all together. I finally own both of Paul's books so I have the location for cutting the grill.

When I get through I will be very happy for all of this and the car will be better as well.

Thanks

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