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Old 10/05/2006, 12:17 PM   #1
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Question for HCS owners..

Since I'm making a few collectibles, like decals, plaques, etc., I was wondering about the numbers breakdown for the HCS.

So far, we have license plate frames from Casey, that separate 4118 to 251 (HCS), and 3867 for the GT/CS.

It's not a real problem making separate HCS things, it's more of the demand for items. With about 1200 people on my list, I think about 100-120 are HCS folks. So--how do you feel about using the GT/CS decals, etc., on your '68 HCS?

Would you prefer the number split mentioned on the decal? I just am thinking of how to honor the HCS folks with these items. Would it be "dishonorable" to include the HCS as a collective part of the GT/CS? From a "this is business" Ford marketing point of view (circa June 1968) they thought of the HCS as a Denver dealer DSO branch off of the GT/CS program, to sell cars.

I'd like to hear from HCS owners about what they think about this. It has more to do with marketing--and respect, than to create any kind of thought of "division".

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Old 10/05/2006, 12:43 PM   #2
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As an HCS owner I would prefer to see items for HCS's alone. No offense to the GT/CS and understanding the marketing plan of 1968 but the HCS predates the GT/CS. If the demand is not there for seperate decals then a number breakdown on a GT/CS decal would work for me.
I personally would not put a GT/CS decal, without some HCS recognition, on my car because it is not a California Special...then again I may just be grumpy today.
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Old 10/05/2006, 03:41 PM   #3
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Good Point, Mark.
Grumpy? nah...(LOL!!)

You make the valid point that separate HCS items should be offered, like a decal for '66-'67-'68 HCS Mustangs (attn.: Mr. Teets). That actually would be a great idea, since it would honor the lineage of those years. I feel that the HCS should get more recognition.

I've always considered the '68 HCS as an HCS, since it was marketed that way. It's just that it's development in '68 was the same as the GT/CS, so there is some overlap. There's a difference from inclusion by production--and recognizing it as a separate limited edition. But then again, there are many overlaps with registries, i.e. Cobra Jet Registry and GT/CS, or GT390, X-Code, etc...which one could belong to more than one--with the same car!!

Maybe what this means is to (at least in things like decals, t-shirts, etc.) separate the GT/CS and HCS cars. Of course, I'll include (in fact will be expanding) the HCS history for my book. No change there.

Perhaps the HCS folks could provide some more commentary/reaction about this?

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Old 10/05/2006, 04:42 PM   #4
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I would only be interested in HCS specific items.

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Old 10/05/2006, 05:01 PM   #5
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...We can still do these as coffee mugs or shirts. Your personal HCS featured and design varied upon request...
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Old 10/05/2006, 05:55 PM   #6
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Being a owner of a HCS I to would preferred HCS merchandise.

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Old 10/05/2006, 06:21 PM   #7
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I would also prefer HCS specific items. But there clearly is a relationship between the two cars and something that addresses both of them on one item would be fine with me.

Paul, I appreciate your thoughtfulness on this subject. I am probably not as hardcore as others given that I currently have GT/CS decals and not the appropriate HCS ones on my car right now.

(BTW, I was the 5th calendar car)

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Old 10/05/2006, 11:24 PM   #8
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You're welcome, David,

If GT/CS owners have had "recognition" problems from the public sometimes, then I can only wonder how the HCS folks have felt.

I'll see what the "HCS Guru" has to say ("pssst!...hey...Mr. Teets!"), and I'd like to know if the HCS folks would consider collectibles with or without all three years ('66, '67, '68) of the HCS as imagery.

It IS the 40th for the '67 HCS right now. For the '66 last year. We can't let '08 go by without honoring the '68 HCS.

This is going to be cool!

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Old 10/06/2006, 06:47 AM   #9
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Paul,

I think all HCS owners greatly appreciate what you are trying to do for us. Whether it be for all HCS years or just one year. However I would only be interested in something that specifically recognizes 1968.

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Old 10/06/2006, 01:44 PM   #10
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I agree with Scott. I personnaly would prefer only 68 HCS specific products. That's all I got to say 'bout that.

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Old 10/06/2006, 03:52 PM   #11
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OK, it sounds like the '68 HCS is the way to go.

I just need to go over this with Bob Teets, and get his "OK" before I do anything further.

I do have a really cool design in mind. When I find out more, we'll move ahead on this.

This, of course, will coincide with the return of the GT/CS Registry decals ASAP.

I'll get back to you all ASAP!

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Old 10/06/2006, 11:24 PM   #12
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I totally agree with Mark and Scott. Yup, I do.

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Old 10/07/2006, 05:20 AM   #13
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THANK YOU Paul.

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You're welcome, David,

If GT/CS owners have had "recognition" problems from the public sometimes, then I can only wonder how the HCS folks have felt.

I'll see what the "HCS Guru" has to say ("pssst!...hey...Mr. Teets!"), and I'd like to know if the HCS folks would consider collectibles with or without all three years ('66, '67, '68) of the HCS as imagery.

It IS the 40th for the '67 HCS right now. For the '66 last year. We can't let '08 go by without honoring the '68 HCS.

This is going to be cool!

Paul N.
Paul, I think we HCS owners, for the most part, would want our own decals. I, too, would not run a CS decal on one of my HC's and visa versa, I would not run a HC decal on my '68 royal maroon CS. I don't know how one would want to handle the 3 different years of the HCS (perhaps all 3 years listed on a decal). Lately I sold my '66 HCS and would have run a HC decal on it, but it would have had to say no year or '66 on it somewhere. So, perhaps because of such few HCS owners on this site (and really, out there in the real world), I don't think, $ wise, it will pay to make up a different decal for each of the three years, so how about 1 HCS decal with all 3 YEARS OR 1 HCS decal with NO YEARS on it. I try to remember, too, that many of us should NEVER SAY NEVER in our hunt for a toy because one day a HC owner may find a CS (as in 428) that they can't live without and a CS owner may find a HCS (as in 428) that they can't live without. Ask me or Scott Fuller about that 'cus we've been there, done that. How's about a find like a '66 or '67 HCS fastback? Would I rid myself of a '68 HCS coupe or a maroon '68 J code CS to buy it? IN A HEART BEAT. So would many of you, I'm sure. I guess I'm being selfish in wanting to cover all the bases here. Would others here buy into this decal separation theory, also? Let's here from you soon so that Paul N. can get rolling on this. Thanks, HC Bob Teets here.
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Old 10/08/2006, 07:49 AM   #15
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Paul,

Are you thinking of doing window decals or other items too?

Tim (Midnight Special) - Can you change the graphic shown on the previous page to have a hood scoop and black stripe (428)? I'd be interested in paying you to come up with a 428 HCS graphic. Something with "428", and "Cobra Jet", "HCS", and "1 of 9". Hey Bob...is nine the right number?

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