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Old 06/05/2017, 08:43 AM   #1
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Power Steering

Hello All,

Looking at installing power steering. I have been tossing the idea of rack and pinion and or power assist? Any thoughts or any other viable options
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Old 06/05/2017, 09:21 AM   #2
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If the car has an automatic transmission I recommend the Borgeson system.
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Old 06/05/2017, 09:26 AM   #3
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I'm a curmudgeon. I prefer the original type P/S system. (I think Rob has one he would sell.)

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Old 06/05/2017, 10:21 AM   #4
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I agree Neil. I'm one of those guys who prefer the car to be what it was, right down to the non-power drum brakes if that's what it was born with.

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Old 06/05/2017, 10:58 AM   #5
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I am a tasteful (maybe not) modifier!! I think the benefits of a rack and pinion are more for bar talk than actual performance. The outlier would be a serious road racer.

That said I have installed a few Borgeson conversions and love them for their simplicity of the system. They do not need a ram and control valve and the associated hoses that are required to support them. Two hoses that run from the pump to the steering box that are static and do not need to move like the lower Ford system hoses must do.

The Bergeson system recommends a GM pump which could be a non-starter for you. But I have ran one system with a Ford pump and it was ok. Arlie is spot on if you have a manual tranny. The clutch Z bar will need to be modified.

I have a rebuilt Ford steering box and can access a pump and brackets if you want them.

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Old 06/07/2017, 08:41 AM   #6
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its an automatic. I actually bought Renee's mustang from her and the wife wants power steering. Thank you guys for the info
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Old 06/07/2017, 08:56 AM   #7
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Steve,
That car deserves to more stock than modified. I think I would go with the original Ford system on her, unless you really like to corner hard! I do have access to an original pump, brackets, and a 1967 PS steering box that is freshly rebuilt. I rebuild them.

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Old 06/12/2017, 08:50 AM   #8
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Hello Rob

Can you send me a the price for your power steering kit? 209-652-5322
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Old 06/12/2017, 09:18 AM   #9
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I will need to round up the parts. Steering box is very heavy and will cost a bit to ship. I have some of the large parts, but you may need some small items to complete. I do not have the control valve, but may be able to come up with a rebuildable one. Where are you located?

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Old 06/14/2017, 02:48 PM   #10
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Old 06/19/2017, 09:28 AM   #11
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Steven,
At the same time I posted this the local president of the Mustang club I founded (Kitsap Mustang) is doing the same conversion. Sorry to say that I am going to help him out with the parts. also I am sorry to get you hopes up on my parts.

Here is a link to the Borgeson system. I have installed a bunch of these systems on old fords and have been pleased with the results. I would submit that this system is far more affordable than piecing a stock system together with new parts from a supplier.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/b.../model/mustang

We need to see if you have the proper crankshaft pulley with a separate shive for the power steering belt. This system is superior to the stock system in tightness and road feel in my opinion. And it has less hoses to leak and sometimes fail completely. Downside is the GM style pump. I have heard of people using a stock ford power steering pump, but they do no generate as much pressure as the GM pump that is required to operate a steering box of the Borgeson style. But it could be tired. Borgeson sells a kit without the pump if you wish to try this. And if does not you can buy the pump separately.

If you go stock I still have some of the brackets and such available for your conversion. I will not have a steering box.

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Old 06/19/2017, 09:52 AM   #12
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Rob;
Will an original/stock 3 groove pulley (A/C, Alt, P/S) work with the Borgenson kit?

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Old 06/19/2017, 03:06 PM   #13
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I am pretty sure. Is the A/C shive the most forward of the three? If so I am sure it will work. Steven may have a 2 shive pulley already. I think I have the pump and all the brackets. Wow, I just priced a steering box for the 1966 I am working on..... $550 buckalero's!!

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