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Old 01/02/2016, 03:13 PM   #1
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Firewall Hole ID

Got a PM asking for the decoder ring to a couple photos I did. This is based on a 68 S code manual GT. Could not find the original post.

Any corrections or clarifications appreciated, can amend the list if needed.





A – Power brake booster, red (manual cars use only two side holes on booster, bolts thru other with plate on firewall)
B – Steering column – 4 sheet metal screws
C – Washer hoses (small hose on top)
D - Engine feed wiring harness
E – Speedometer cable
F – Clutch rod (blank not punched out on Automatics)
G – Emergency brake (also clutch spring return bracket on manual cars)
H - Accelerator pedal grommet
J - Accelerator bell crank – 3 sheet metal screws
K –Brake line clip
L – Fuse block, 2 sheet metal screws
M – Unsure – not used on either of my 68 S codes or 68 C code, maybe 6 cylinder use
N – Pedal support to firewall – 2 sheet metal screws
P – Brake Line Clip
Q – Alternator Wiring Harness / Transmission Neutral Switch Harness
R – Firewall Pad Retainer
S – ??? (see pic next post)
T – Heater – 4 studs w/stamped nuts w/sealer (heater equipped cars only, not A/C cars or heater delete. For A/C cars oval plate to right is punched out)
U – Heater Hoses (on all cars, for A/C holes were capped with rubber plugs)
V – Brake line clip
W – Firewall pad retainer
X – Unsure, think it may be dimple for 6 cyl accelerator rod bracket, not used on my V8’s
Y – Heater motor shield, used on A/C cars and left on many big blocks
Z - Engine ground strap

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Old 01/02/2016, 03:36 PM   #2
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Some added holes from another pic I saw digging up the two above, a bit clearer in primer...



1 – AC heater box mounting studs (2 dimples)
2 – AC water control valve (2 screws)
3 – Radio Suppressor Strap
4 – Hood turn signal wiring (San Jose cars)
5 - Cowl weatherstrip (7 places)
6- Windscreen washer nozzles
7 – Washer hose tee
8 – dimples for AC cover plate (not marked, visible near heater blower mount holes and under the lower heater hose hole)
9 – dimples for AC vacuum canister, 3. 2x for screws and 1x for the large hole for the can hose connection fitting)
10 – wire retainer mount, transmission neutral switch (auto trans only) (#382175)
11 – wire retainer mount , trans neutral switch and coil/oil harness (#374320)
12 – wire retainer mount (hood louver signals)
13 – hood signal harness retainer mounting screw (hidden)
14 – heater wire retainer clip (heater power wires)

Many other dimples holes (black circles) I could never ID....

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Old 01/02/2016, 04:03 PM   #3
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On an AC car the horizontal punch-out plate, to the right of the huge hole on the left, will be open. I think the two heater hose holes will be closed, but I'm not sure - they may have rubber plugs in them.
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Old 01/02/2016, 04:18 PM   #4
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Ah ha, I found a photo.
They appear to be rubber plugs.
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Old 01/02/2016, 04:20 PM   #5
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Yep, and 6 cylinders will have different items. And manual vs clutch differs (hole F will be closed on a automatic car). Have updated the initial lists.

To do a comprehensive listing would take pics from a few different cars. 6, small block, big block, manual, auto. I doubt body style changes much (but I do need to add where the convertible top feed would go thru....)

If others can provide them we can build a set... I'm happy to mark up the pcs with similar numbering...
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Old 01/02/2016, 04:25 PM   #6
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The level of information from this site is amazing!! You guys never cease to amaze me!!

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Old 01/02/2016, 04:26 PM   #7
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A/C photo: The 2 heater hose holes ARE used on an A/C car. Just different hose routing.

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Old 01/02/2016, 05:40 PM   #8
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Thanks Rob, coming from you that is a high compliment.

Neil,

Can you clarify?

I thought the non-AC heater holes were blanked off with rubber plugs on AC cars.

The heater core in the AC box has connections thru the optional oval punch-out, and the evaporator connections go thru where the heart motor sits on a standard heater optioned car?

I think in your photo you can see the unused original heater holes behind the transmission dipstick?
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Old 01/02/2016, 06:13 PM   #9
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#4 is used for hood signal wire mounting on a San Jose cars. 13 is used on Dearborn and Metuchen cars.

There also is a dimple in the #1 aria for a vacuum hose support bracket on AC cars.

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Old 01/02/2016, 06:14 PM   #10
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I'll get another photo tomorrow. (Both my C/S's are factory A/C)

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Old 01/02/2016, 06:21 PM   #11
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Thanks Rob, coming from you that is a high compliment.

Neil,

Can you clarify?

I thought the non-AC heater holes were blanked off with rubber plugs on AC cars.

The heater core in the AC box has connections thru the optional oval punch-out, and the evaporator connections go thru where the heart motor sits on a standard heater optioned car?

I think in your photo you can see the unused original heater holes behind the transmission dipstick?
Yep, the holes behind the dipstick are the heater hose holes.
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Old 01/02/2016, 06:29 PM   #12
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Item 4 updated.... thanks! I found that in double checking my own phots once you mentioned it!

Now to fix the GT/CS, S convertible and GT coupe... all San Jose and I did them wrong!!!
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Old 01/02/2016, 06:33 PM   #13
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And I am unsure if S is firewall pad or a option wiring port... and the pad is the one to the left.

Anyone know where the convertible wire originally went? My '68 uses S but am not sure if that is correct, or just where I ran it a decade ago when I restored the car... I think it may be the black circle dimple to the left of S...
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Oh MY GOD!!! I bow to the information on this subject. And Richard that is a huge compliment to me who does not deserve such high praise!! Not in the concurs world that you guys are amazing in!

Way to preserve and authenticate our hobby guys!!

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It's like the gods have spoken because I really needed this information myself.
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