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Old 08/15/2015, 05:00 PM   #1
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Power Steering Hose Routing

I have reviewed the other posts on this subject, but they do not entirely answer my questions.

While replacing the power steering ram boot We discovered an “unusual” routing of one of the power steering hoses. I am pretty sure that Ford did not use plumbers strapping tape on OE installations ;)

The strapping tape has been used to keep the Power Steering hose away from the exhaust manifold. What should be the correct routing to keep the hose away from the manifold.

Is this even a correct hose? Is this where one of the factory rubber straps should mount?

Thanks, Pat
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Old 08/15/2015, 05:58 PM   #2
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Yes you are correct that is not how Ford did it. Both hoses should be routed through the clamp and insulator by the motor mount. I can not tell from you pictures whether or not you have the correct hoses. Here are some pics of my car and how the hoses are routed. My car is a C code 289.
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Old 08/15/2015, 06:46 PM   #3
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Thanks, Marty:

The hoses do run through the bracket and insulator. It appears the two hoses should run parallel to the ram. Our one hose is extra long and as a result goes beyond the ram and then doubles back, putting it "in harms way".

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Old 08/15/2015, 07:18 PM   #4
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OEM used a rubberish strap attached to the shock tower to hold the lines away from the manifolds.

I'll see if I can find some pics, or go snap a few later today...
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Old 08/15/2015, 07:39 PM   #5
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just went out and snapped a few pcis.

It looks like when the shop repaired the typical gaping hole in the shock tower a PO hacked in to get to the grease nipples on the UCA they filled the hole for the strap.

Strap and current routing, which I think is close to OEM. Shafer Classics hoses, which are a good option in between the Blue Dot$$ and other "kinda-fits-ok repros I have tried.

HTH

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(photobucket keep flipping it upside-down on upload, and edits are just taking forever to apply....)

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Old 08/15/2015, 08:29 PM   #6
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It looks like the high pressure hose comes off the pump vertically then loops forward before proceeding through the insulator. Our hose has no such loop. It is either installed incorrectly or is not the correct hose. Your thoughts?

Pat
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Old 08/15/2015, 07:52 PM   #7
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Found these in the restoration archives. You can just see the strap, it sits lower and farther back than I recalled, behind and below the PS pump.





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Old 08/15/2015, 10:38 PM   #8
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Looks like an after market hose, as it seem to have a long straight tube off the crimped connector. As well as missing the alignment bracket on the back of the pump, which could indicate a PO modification.... new pump or just a new hose...

Does the pump have a tag on the backside? (example stolen from a random website below....)

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Old 08/16/2015, 03:16 PM   #9
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I do not find a tag. Should it be on the side where the hoses are located?

The hose looks to be a 70-71 Mustang/Cougar pressure line. It appears to match the Scott Drake line for those cars.

The work would have been done in the 70's or early 80's as it has been in our family since 1988. Owners would just take cars to their mechanic and he would make it work, with no thought for authenticity. My father-in-law purchased this car and was a stickler for detail. He also had access to lots of NOS parts. He would have done it right.

Here is a picture of the pressure hose.

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Old 08/16/2015, 03:49 PM   #10
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BTW, anyone know a source for the alignment/indexing bracket?

Thanks, Pat

OOPS! Never mind, found a couple of sources online for used parts.
Pat

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Old 08/16/2015, 06:21 PM   #11
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I had this same issue over the past couple weeks. I tried to order the original hoses from NPD. I was told the original style was no longer available. They assured me that although the bend on the high pressure hose was slightly different, it would be correct.

Well, no, it wasn't. The hose bends down and out so there is no way you could loop it (not long enough & too close to the exhaust manifolds). After fitting it, I decided to keep it since it fit nicely through the hose block. I have the piece of rubber that held the original hoses. It is a cool piece, but I won't be able to use it.

I am disappointed that I cannot use the bracket on the back of the pump, especially after I had already cleaned and painted it. You will notice I left the bracket on the pump since I would have to take off both my AC compressor and PS pump out to get the bracket off. No thanks for now, maybe someday.

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Old 08/16/2015, 06:52 PM   #12
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Look up Shafer Classics, I think I got a close to correct hose from them a while ago...
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Old 08/16/2015, 06:57 PM   #13
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Hi Craig:
Looks like you have the same hose I do which is for the 70/71 Mustang. I do know that Scott Drake makes the correct hose.

I feel your pain!
Pat

p.s. We have a local Mustang supplier who can get me the hose from Scott Drake.
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Old 09/16/2015, 10:45 PM   #14
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My high-pressure hose runs through the rubber insulator block on the side of the block next to the exhaust. Some pictures I have seen show the hose running through the hole next to the fender, which makes more sense to me.

Which is correct?

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Old 09/16/2015, 11:29 PM   #15
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Does the attached bracket work? Not sure where it mounts to.

http://www.cal-mustang.com/POWER-STE...9JMWJYdwd7bKpi
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